I hire editors by posting several versions of the same job on Upwork at different prices and experience levels, then burning through proposals as fast as I can until I find a diamond in the rough. I go straight to the portfolio links, watch the first 10 seconds, and look for contextual visuals, music that matches the voice, and proof they've worked on channels that get views. When I recorded this, my $40 a video post set to expert was bringing in better editors than my $100 to $200 intermediate posts. Expect to go through about 300 people, talk to 20 to 30, and get around 10 samples.
I was going through proposals for an editor for Nutty History, my history channel, and realized I should record it. For a long time I've told people to just go grind it out on Upwork. This is what I actually mean by that.
For context, I threw up six job posts in the last two or three days. Two of them are for a scriptwriter (I found good ones quickly, and three are getting a trial right now). The rest are editor posts.
Between posts, all I did was change up the pricing and the experience level, and change the copy just a little bit.
| Job post | What I saw |
|---|---|
| $100 a video | My AI wrote this one up. Honestly, I don't love the post |
| $200 a video, intermediate | Not as good as the people on the $40 post |
| $300 a video | Lower quality people than when I put $40 a video for expert |
| $40 a video, expert | The best people so far. Better than the $100 to $200 intermediate people |
A few things I noticed:
Don't worry too much about the job post itself. I'm being a little experimental. For the basics of the role, start with how to hire YouTube editors.
Then it's a thumbs up to shortlist or a thumbs down to archive. If the links don't open, I archive. If you can't make sure your own link works, I just ignore it.
Where someone is based is hit or miss for me. Part of it is just different culture, and I do sometimes come across a really good editor from South Asia or Eastern Europe (the best one in this batch is out of Bangladesh).
Anytime they use em dashes (the long dashes), that's typically a sign of AI, because you have to go out of your way to type that key. The reason it's a problem is you can't judge their written English from an AI proposal. So you'll probably go through a few rounds of revisions on the captions and the text on screen, because you'll get spelling errors.
One applicant linked channels she said she'd worked for, and one of them was a crime channel that's pretty legit, with good packaging and good editing. The problem is I had no proof she was the editor, and the other channels she linked were really basic, cheap editing.
So I messaged her: "Hey, I love the work that you showed me in the channels that you've linked me. Can you link me very specific videos that you've made before in the past? And also, can you show me the timelines of the videos? I want to see what your editing style is."
Another editor had applied to both the $200 post and the $40 post. The caption style was really basic, and there was no real b-roll.
If anybody is using stock footage for b-roll, that usually shows they aren't that high quality. You want people who find contextually accurate clips, videos and images.
When you've done Upwork a couple of days in a row, you see weird things. A few different people linked me the same history video as their work. It's a good video visually, but I don't know who the original maker is. Sometimes people link a video that isn't actually theirs. One proposal at $40 a video linked a video from a big channel, and the way the message was written didn't match that level of work. I don't think that one was legit, so I archived it.
This is me nitpicking, and I am kind of a nitpick. On one portfolio video:
I'd seen three or four things that bug me, so I'm already out.
If the portfolio is small channels with an AI voice, I usually just move on. If you're decent, you shouldn't be posting that on your portfolio.
Another one had a script talking about the Manhattan skyline while the editor cut an intense edit of a castle. That's a misalignment.
Can someone working for small channels be a diamond in the rough? Totally. But usually people who are good won't work on projects that aren't doing well.
The main thing we're looking for is a diamond in the rough. Here's the one I liked from this batch. He had only done two jobs on his Upwork account.
What I liked in the first 10 to 20 seconds of his video:
In a second video, he was good with music, tension and emotional clips.
The only issue is he only sent me a couple of videos, and I wanted to see more range. So I messaged him for more examples, and I'm waiting to see if the work is actually his (I'm very skeptical until I see proof). It was better than most of the $300 a video proposals I've gotten.
Here's what I think usually happens with people like this. They were working for an agency and getting paid $10 or $20 a video. Then they go off and start picking up their own work on the side. They realize that instead of $10 or $20 a video, they can get $40 a video, which to them is a huge amount more.
Compared to a $300 editor, or to the amount of money these videos are going to make us, it's nothing.
The same thing happens with writers. I found a writer who had literally written for a giant YouTube channel on a $50 a script post. I thought that was absolutely insane.
So I'll try $100 to $300, sometimes even $1,000 a script or an edit. And sometimes I just find people who are better on the cheaper job posts.
This is one mindset I try to have whenever it comes to finding people. I know there's somebody out there who's working for my competitor channels, already getting 100,000 plus views a video, who probably wants more work or would be willing to work for me if the deal was right.
I might keep some people who are good as a backup on the bench. But I really want somebody who's already batteries included, so I'm not wasting so much time.
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You have to be patient. Sometimes I'll go through 20 people and not find a single one that's good. I probably put in an hour or two last night scrolling through people who applied for the editing and scripting roles.
| Stage | Roughly how many |
|---|---|
| Proposals you read | About 300 |
| People you talk to | 20 to 30 |
| Samples you get | About 10 |
Scripting is a lot harder to go through, because you have to sit down and read. With scripts, I'm looking at whether they can take really complex subjects and boil them down into something really simple.
With editing, I'm purely looking at visuals. I lead with aesthetics first. If they've got the aesthetics, the rest is usually kind of natural. You can also burn through visuals a lot faster than scripts.
It's a little tedious, for sure. Do it every day for a couple of weeks and you'll have a bench of people you can send any video idea to.
Devon hires editors and scriptwriters on Upwork. For his history channel he put up six job posts in about three days, varying the price, the experience level and the copy, then screened the proposals himself.
Devon tested posts at $40, $100, $200 and $300 a video. When he recorded the video, his $40 a video post set to expert was finding better editors than his $100 to $200 intermediate posts, and he says price doesn't always turn into quality.
He leads with aesthetics: visuals that are contextual to what the narrator is saying, music that matches the pacing of the voice, useful on-screen text, and proof the editor has worked on channels that get views. He archives editors who rely on stock footage b-roll.
Devon looks for em dashes (long dashes), which he says are typically a sign of AI. He avoids those applicants because an AI-written proposal hides their real written English, which means more rounds of revisions on captions and on-screen text.
Devon says to expect to go through about 300 people, talk to 20 to 30 of them, and get around 10 samples. Doing this every day for a week or two builds a bench of reliable editors and writers.
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